49 posts tagged “podcasts”
2025
Half Stack Data Science: Programming with AI, with Simon Willison (via) I participated in this wide-ranging 50 minute conversation with David Asboth and Shaun McGirr. Topics we covered included applications of LLMs to data journalism, the challenges of building an intuition for how best to use these tool given their "jagged frontier" of capabilities, how LLMs impact learning to program and how local models are starting to get genuinely useful now.
At 27:47:
If you're a new programmer, my optimistic version is that there has never been a better time to learn to program, because it shaves down the learning curve so much. When you're learning to program and you miss a semicolon and you bang your head against the computer for four hours [...] if you're unlucky you quit programming for good because it was so frustrating. [...]
I've always been a project-oriented learner; I can learn things by building something, and now the friction involved in building something has gone down so much [...] So I think especially if you're an autodidact, if you're somebody who likes teaching yourself things, these are a gift from heaven. You get a weird teaching assistant that knows loads of stuff and occasionally makes weird mistakes and believes in bizarre conspiracy theories, but you have 24 hour access to that assistant.
If you're somebody who prefers structured learning in classrooms, I think the benefits are going to take a lot longer to get to you because we don't know how to use these things in classrooms yet. [...]
If you want to strike out on your own, this is an amazing tool if you learn how to learn with it. So you've got to learn the limits of what it can do, and you've got to be disciplined enough to make sure you're not outsourcing the bits you need to learn to the machines.
Notes from my Accessibility and Gen AI podcast appearance
I was a guest on the most recent episode of the Accessibility + Gen AI Podcast, hosted by Eamon McErlean and Joe Devon. We had a really fun, wide-ranging conversation about a host of different topics. I’ve extracted a few choice quotes from the transcript.
[... 947 words]A selfish personal argument for releasing code as Open Source
I’m the guest for the most recent episode of the Real Python podcast with Christopher Bailey, talking about Using LLMs for Python Development. We covered a lot of other topics as well—most notably my relationship with Open Source development over the years.
[... 464 words]Simon Willison And SWYX Tell Us Where AI Is In 2025. I recorded this podcast episode with Brian McCullough and swyx riffing off my Things we learned about LLMs in 2024 review. We also touched on some predictions for the future - this is where I learned from swyx that Everything Everywhere All at Once used generative AI (Runway ML) already.
The episode is also available on YouTube:
Oxide and Friends Predictions 2025—on Monday Jan 6th at 5pm Pacific (via) I'll be participating in the annual Oxide and Friends predictions podcast / live recording next Monday (6th January) at 5pm Pacific, in their Discord.
The event description reads:
Join us in making 1-, 3- and 6-year tech predictions -- and to revisit our 1-year predictions from 2024 and our 3-year predictions from 2022!
I find the idea of predicting six months ahead in terms of LLMs hard to imagine, so six years will be absolute science fiction!
I had a lot of fun talking about open source LLMs on this podcast a year ago.
2024
Simon Willison: The Future of Open Source and AI (via) I sat down a few weeks ago to record this conversation with Logan Kilpatrick and Nolan Fortman for their podcast Around the Prompt. The episode is available on YouTube and Apple Podcasts and other platforms.
We talked about a whole bunch of different topics, including the ongoing debate around the term "open source" when applied to LLMs and my thoughts on why I don't feel threatened by LLMs as a software engineer (at 40m05s).
Weeknotes: asynchronous LLMs, synchronous embeddings, and I kind of started a podcast
These past few weeks I’ve been bringing Datasette and LLM together and distracting myself with a new sort-of-podcast crossed with a live streaming experiment.
[... 896 words]Notes from Bing Chat—Our First Encounter With Manipulative AI
I participated in an Ars Live conversation with Benj Edwards of Ars Technica today, talking about that wild period of LLM history last year when Microsoft launched Bing Chat and it instantly started misbehaving, gaslighting and defaming people.
[... 438 words]I listened to the whole 15-minute podcast this morning. It was, indeed, surprisingly effective. It remains somewhere in the uncanny valley, but not at all in a creepy way. Just more in a “this is a bit vapid and phony” way. [...] But ultimately the conversation has all the flavor of a bowl of unseasoned white rice.
Weeknotes: Three podcasts, two trips and a new plugin system
I fell behind a bit on my weeknotes. Here’s most of what I’ve been doing in September.
[... 693 words]NotebookLM’s automatically generated podcasts are surprisingly effective
Audio Overview is a fun new feature of Google’s NotebookLM which is getting a lot of attention right now. It generates a one-off custom podcast against content you provide, where two AI hosts start up a “deep dive” discussion about the collected content. These last around ten minutes and are very podcast, with an astonishingly convincing audio back-and-forth conversation.
[... 1,489 words]The Pragmatic Engineer Podcast: AI tools for software engineers, but without the hype – with Simon Willison. Gergely Orosz has a brand new podcast, and I was the guest for the first episode. We covered a bunch of ground, but my favorite topic was an exploration of the (very legitimate) reasons that many engineers are resistant to taking advantage of AI-assisted programming tools.
Notes on using LLMs for code
I was recently the guest on TWIML—the This Week in Machine Learning & AI podcast. Our episode is titled Supercharging Developer Productivity with ChatGPT and Claude with Simon Willison, and the focus of the conversation was the ways in which I use LLM tools in my day-to-day work as a software developer and product engineer.
[... 861 words]Supercharging Developer Productivity with ChatGPT and Claude with Simon Willison (via) I'm the guest for the latest episode of the TWIML AI podcast - This Week in Machine Learning & AI, hosted by Sam Charrington.
We mainly talked about how I use LLM tooling for my own work - Claude, ChatGPT, Code Interpreter, Claude Artifacts, LLM and GitHub Copilot - plus a bit about my experiments with local models.
Notes from my appearance on the Software Misadventures Podcast
I was a guest on Ronak Nathani and Guang Yang’s Software Misadventures Podcast, which interviews seasoned software engineers about their careers so far and their misadventures along the way. Here’s the episode: LLMs are like your weird, over-confident intern | Simon Willison (Datasette).
[... 1,740 words]Transcripts on Apple Podcasts (via) I missed this when it launched back in March: the Apple Podcasts app now features searchable transcripts, including the ability to tap on text and jump to that point in the audio.
Confusingly, you can only tap to navigate using the view of the transcript that comes up when you hit the quote mark icon during playback - if you click the Transcript link from the episode listing page you get a static transcript without the navigation option.
Transcripts are created automatically server-side by Apple, or podcast authors can upload their own edited transcript using Apple Podcasts Connect.
PDF to Podcast (via) At first glance this project by Stephan Fitzpatrick is a cute demo of a terrible sounding idea... but then I tried it out and the results are weirdly effective. You can listen to a fake podcast version of the transformers paper, or upload your own PDF (with your own OpenAI API key) to make your own.
It's open source (Apache 2) so I had a poke around in the code. It gets a lot done with a single 180 line Python script.
When I'm exploring code like this I always jump straight to the prompt - it's quite long, and starts like this:
Your task is to take the input text provided and turn it into an engaging, informative podcast dialogue. The input text may be messy or unstructured, as it could come from a variety of sources like PDFs or web pages. Don't worry about the formatting issues or any irrelevant information; your goal is to extract the key points and interesting facts that could be discussed in a podcast. [...]
So I grabbed a copy of it and pasted in my blog entry about WWDC, which produced this result when I ran it through Gemini Flash using llm-gemini:
cat prompt.txt | llm -m gemini-1.5-flash-latest
Then I piped the result through my ospeak CLI tool for running text-to-speech with the OpenAI TTS models (after truncating to 690 tokens with ttok because it turned out to be slightly too long for the API to handle):
llm logs --response | ttok -t 690 | ospeak -s -o wwdc-auto-podcast.mp3
And here's the result (3.9MB 3m14s MP3).
It's not as good as the PDF-to-Podcast version because Stephan has some really clever code that uses different TTS voices for each of the characters in the transcript, but it's still a surprisingly fun way of repurposing text from my blog. I enjoyed listening to it while I was cooking dinner.
Talking about Django’s history and future on Django Chat (via) Django co-creator Jacob Kaplan-Moss sat down with the Django Chat podcast team to talk about Django’s history, his recent return to the Django Software Foundation board and what he hopes to achieve there.
Here’s his post about it, where he used Whisper and Claude to extract some of his own highlights from the conversation.
“Wherever you get your podcasts” is a radical statement. Anil Dash points out that podcasts are one of the few cases where the dream really did work out:
“[...] what it represents is the triumph of exactly the kind of technology that’s supposed to be impossible: open, empowering tech that’s not owned by any one company, that can’t be controlled by any one company, and that allows people to have ownership over their work and their relationship with their audience.”
Django Chat: Datasette, LLMs, and Django. I’m the guest on the latest episode of the Django Chat podcast. We talked about Datasette, LLMs, the New York Times OpenAI lawsuit, the Python Software Foundation and all sorts of other topics.
Talking about Open Source LLMs on Oxide and Friends
I recorded an episode of the Oxide and Friends podcast on Monday, talking with Bryan Cantrill and Adam Leventhal about Open Source LLMs.
[... 1,995 words]Open Source LLMs with Simon Willison. I was invited to the Oxide and Friends weekly audio show (previously on Twitter Spaces, now using broadcast using Discord) to talk about open source LLMs, and to respond to a very poorly considered op-ed calling for them to be regulated as “uniquely dangerous”. It was a really fun conversation, now available to listen to as a podcast or YouTube audio-only video.
2023
Recommendations to help mitigate prompt injection: limit the blast radius
I’m in the latest episode of RedMonk’s Conversation series, talking with Kate Holterhoff about the prompt injection class of security vulnerabilities: what it is, why it’s so dangerous and why the industry response to it so far has been pretty disappointing.
[... 539 words]Simon Willison (Part Two): How Datasette Helps With Investigative Reporting. The second part of my Newsroom Robots podcast conversation with Nikita Roy. This episode includes my best audio answer yet to the “what is Datasette?” question, plus notes on how to use LLMs in journalism despite their propensity to make things up.
Prompt injection explained, November 2023 edition
A neat thing about podcast appearances is that, thanks to Whisper transcriptions, I can often repurpose parts of them as written content for my blog.
[... 1,357 words]I’m on the Newsroom Robots podcast, with thoughts on the OpenAI board
Newsroom Robots is a weekly podcast exploring the intersection of AI and journalism, hosted by Nikita Roy.
[... 1,032 words]AGI is Being Achieved Incrementally (OpenAI DevDay w/ Simon Willison, Alex Volkov, Jim Fan, Raza Habib, Shreya Rajpal, Rahul Ligma, et al). I participated in an an hour long conversation today about the new things released at OpenAI DevDay, now available on the Latent Space podcast.
Talking Large Language Models with Rooftop Ruby
I’m on the latest episode of the Rooftop Ruby podcast with Collin Donnell and Joel Drapper, talking all things LLM.
[... 15,489 words]Llama 2: The New Open LLM SOTA. I’m in this Latent Space podcast, recorded yesterday, talking about the Llama 2 release.
Latent Space: Code Interpreter == GPT 4.5 (via) I presented as part of this Latent Space episode over the weekend, talking about the newly released ChatGPT Code Interpreter mode with swyx, Alex Volkov, Daniel Wilson and more. swyx did a great job editing our Twitter Spaces conversation into a podcast and writing up a detailed executive summary, posted here along with the transcript. If you’re curious you can listen to the first 15 minutes to get a great high-level explanation of Code Interpreter, or stick around for the full two hours for all of the details.
Apparently our live conversation had 17,000+ listeners!