8 items tagged “deepseek”
DeepSeek is an AI lab from Chinese hedge fund High-Flyer.
2025
Run DeepSeek R1 or V3 with MLX Distributed (via) Handy detailed instructions from Awni Hannun on running the enormous DeepSeek R1 or v3 models on a cluster of Macs using the distributed communication feature of Apple's MLX library.
DeepSeek R1 quantized to 4-bit requires 450GB in aggregate RAM, which can be achieved by a cluster of three 192 GB M2 Ultras ($16,797 will buy you three 192GB Apple M2 Ultra Mac Studios at $5,599 each).
DeepSeek-R1 and exploring DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama-8B
DeepSeek are the Chinese AI lab who dropped the best currently available open weights LLM on Christmas day, DeepSeek v3. That model was trained in part using their unreleased R1 “reasoning” model. Today they’ve released R1 itself, along with a whole family of new models derived from that base.
[... 1,278 words]DeepSeek API Docs: Rate Limit. This is surprising: DeepSeek offer the only hosted LLM API I've seen that doesn't implement rate limits:
DeepSeek API does NOT constrain user's rate limit. We will try out best to serve every request.
However, please note that when our servers are under high traffic pressure, your requests may take some time to receive a response from the server.
Want to run a prompt against 10,000 items? With DeepSeek you can theoretically fire up 100s of parallel requests and crunch through that data in almost no time at all.
As more companies start building systems that rely on LLM prompts for large scale data extraction and manipulation I expect high rate limits will become a key competitive differentiator between the different platforms.
Weeknotes: Starting 2025 a little slow
I published my review of 2024 in LLMs and then got into a fight with most of the internet over the phone microphone targeted ads conspiracy theory.
[... 520 words]2024
Timeline of AI model releases in 2024 (via) VB assembled this detailed timeline of every significant AI model release in 2024, for both API and open weight models.
I'd hoped to include something like this in my 2024 review - I'm glad I didn't bother, because VB's is way better than anything I had planned.
VB built it with assistance from DeepSeek v3, incorporating data from this Artificial Intelligence Timeline project by NHLOCAL. The source code (pleasingly simple HTML, CSS and a tiny bit of JavaScript) is on GitHub.
DeepSeek_V3.pdf (via) The DeepSeek v3 paper (and model card) are out, after yesterday's mysterious release of the undocumented model weights.
Plenty of interesting details in here. The model pre-trained on 14.8 trillion "high-quality and diverse tokens" (not otherwise documented).
Following this, we conduct post-training, including Supervised Fine-Tuning (SFT) and Reinforcement Learning (RL) on the base model of DeepSeek-V3, to align it with human preferences and further unlock its potential. During the post-training stage, we distill the reasoning capability from the DeepSeek-R1 series of models, and meanwhile carefully maintain the balance between model accuracy and generation length.
By far the most interesting detail though is how much the training cost. DeepSeek v3 trained on 2,788,000 H800 GPU hours at an estimated cost of $5,576,000. For comparison, Meta AI's Llama 3.1 405B (smaller than DeepSeek v3's 685B parameters) trained on 11x that - 30,840,000 GPU hours, also on 15 trillion tokens.
DeepSeek v3 benchmarks comparably to Claude 3.5 Sonnet, indicating that it's now possible to train a frontier-class model (at least for the 2024 version of the frontier) for less than $6 million!
For reference, this level of capability is supposed to require clusters of closer to 16K GPUs, the ones being brought up today are more around 100K GPUs. E.g. Llama 3 405B used 30.8M GPU-hours, while DeepSeek-V3 looks to be a stronger model at only 2.8M GPU-hours (~11X less compute). If the model also passes vibe checks (e.g. LLM arena rankings are ongoing, my few quick tests went well so far) it will be a highly impressive display of research and engineering under resource constraints.
DeepSeek also announced their API pricing. From February 8th onwards:
Input: $0.27/million tokens ($0.07/million tokens with cache hits)
Output: $1.10/million tokens
Claude 3.5 Sonnet is currently $3/million for input and $15/million for output, so if the models are indeed of equivalent quality this is a dramatic new twist in the ongoing LLM pricing wars.
deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3-Base (via) No model card or announcement yet, but this new model release from Chinese AI lab DeepSeek (an arm of Chinese hedge fund High-Flyer) looks very significant.
It's a huge model - 685B parameters, 687.9 GB on disk (TIL how to size a git-lfs repo). The architecture is a Mixture of Experts with 256 experts, using 8 per token.
For comparison, Meta AI's largest released model is their Llama 3.1 model with 405B parameters.
The new model is apparently available to some people via both chat.deepseek.com and the DeepSeek API as part of a staged rollout.
Paul Gauthier got API access and used it to update his new Aider Polyglot leaderboard - DeepSeek v3 preview scored 48.4%, putting it in second place behind o1-2024-12-17 (high) and in front of both claude-3-5-sonnet-20241022 and gemini-exp-1206!
I never know if I can believe models or not (the first time I asked "what model are you?" it claimed to be "based on OpenAI's GPT-4 architecture"), but I just got this result using LLM and the llm-deepseek plugin:
llm -m deepseek-chat 'what deepseek model are you?'
I'm DeepSeek-V3 created exclusively by DeepSeek. I'm an AI assistant, and I'm at your service! Feel free to ask me anything you'd like. I'll do my best to assist you.
Here's my initial experiment log.
DeepSeek API introduces Context Caching on Disk (via) I wrote about Claude prompt caching this morning. It turns out Chinese LLM lab DeepSeek released their own implementation of context caching a couple of weeks ago, with the simplest possible pricing model: it's just turned on by default for all users.
When duplicate inputs are detected, the repeated parts are retrieved from the cache, bypassing the need for recomputation. This not only reduces service latency but also significantly cuts down on overall usage costs.
For cache hits, DeepSeek charges $0.014 per million tokens, slashing API costs by up to 90%.
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The disk caching service is now available for all users, requiring no code or interface changes. The cache service runs automatically, and billing is based on actual cache hits.
DeepSeek currently offer two frontier models, DeepSeek-V2 and DeepSeek-Coder-V2, both of which can be run as open weights models or accessed via their API.