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Saturday, 24th August 2024

Musing about OAuth and LLMs on Mastodon. Lots of people are asking why Anthropic and OpenAI don't support OAuth, so you can bounce users through those providers to get a token that uses their API budget for your app.

My guess: they're worried malicious app developers would use it to trick people and obtain valid API keys.

Imagine a version of my dumb little write a haiku about a photo you take page which used OAuth, harvested API keys and then racked up hundreds of dollar bills against everyone who tried it out running illicit election interference campaigns or whatever.

I'm trying to think of an OAuth API that dishes out tokens which effectively let you spend money on behalf of your users and I can't think of any - OAuth is great for "grant this app access to data that I want to share", but "spend money on my behalf" is a whole other ball game.

I guess there's a version of this that could work: it's OAuth but users get to set a spending limit of e.g. $1 (maybe with the authenticating app suggesting what that limit should be).

Here's a counter-example from Mike Taylor of a category of applications that do use OAuth to authorize spend on behalf of users:

I used to work in advertising and plenty of applications use OAuth to connect your Facebook and Google ads accounts, and they could do things like spend all your budget on disinformation ads, but in practice I haven't heard of a single case. When you create a dev application there are stages of approval so you can only invite a handful of beta users directly until the organization and app gets approved.

In which case maybe the cost for providers here is in review and moderation: if you’re going to run an OAuth API that lets apps spend money on behalf of their users you need to actively monitor your developer community and review and approve their apps.

# 12:29 am / oauth, openai, llms, anthropic

[...] here’s what we found when we integrated [Amazon Q, GenAI assistant for software development] into our internal systems and applied it to our needed Java upgrades:

  • The average time to upgrade an application to Java 17 plummeted from what’s typically 50 developer-days to just a few hours. We estimate this has saved us the equivalent of 4,500 developer-years of work (yes, that number is crazy but, real).
  • In under six months, we've been able to upgrade more than 50% of our production Java systems to modernized Java versions at a fraction of the usual time and effort. And, our developers shipped 79% of the auto-generated code reviews without any additional changes.

Andy Jassy, Amazon CEO

# 4:25 am / ai-assisted-programming, amazon, generative-ai, ai, llms, java

SQL Has Problems. We Can Fix Them: Pipe Syntax In SQL (via) A new paper from Google Research describing custom syntax for analytical SQL queries that has been rolling out inside Google since February, reaching 1,600 "seven-day-active users" by August 2024.

A key idea is here is to fix one of the biggest usability problems with standard SQL: the order of the clauses in a query. Starting with SELECT instead of FROM has always been confusing, see SQL queries don't start with SELECT by Julia Evans.

Here's an example of the new alternative syntax, taken from the Pipe query syntax documentation that was added to Google's open source ZetaSQL project last week.

For this SQL query:

SELECT component_id, COUNT(*)
FROM ticketing_system_table
WHERE
  assignee_user.email = 'username@email.com'
  AND status IN ('NEW', 'ASSIGNED', 'ACCEPTED')
GROUP BY component_id
ORDER BY component_id DESC;

The Pipe query alternative would look like this:

FROM ticketing_system_table
|> WHERE
    assignee_user.email = 'username@email.com'
    AND status IN ('NEW', 'ASSIGNED', 'ACCEPTED')
|> AGGREGATE COUNT(*)
   GROUP AND ORDER BY component_id DESC;

The Google Research paper is released as a two-column PDF. I snarked about this on Hacker News:

Google: you are a web company. Please learn to publish your research papers as web pages.

This remains a long-standing pet peeve of mine. PDFs like this are horrible to read on mobile phones, hard to copy-and-paste from, have poor accessibility (see this Mastodon conversation) and are generally just bad citizens of the web.

Having complained about this I felt compelled to see if I could address it myself. Google's own Gemini Pro 1.5 model can process PDFs, so I uploaded the PDF to Google AI Studio and prompted the gemini-1.5-pro-exp-0801 model like this:

Convert this document to neatly styled semantic HTML

This worked surprisingly well. It output HTML for about half the document and then stopped, presumably hitting the output length limit, but a follow-up prompt of "and the rest" caused it to continue from where it stopped and run until the end.

Here's the result (with a banner I added at the top explaining that it's a conversion): Pipe-Syntax-In-SQL.html

I haven't compared the two completely, so I can't guarantee there are no omissions or mistakes.

The figures from the PDF aren't present - Gemini Pro output tags like <img src="figure1.png" alt="Figure 1: SQL syntactic clause order doesn't match semantic evaluation order. (From [25].)"> but did nothing to help me create those images.

Amusingly the document ends with <p>(A long list of references, which I won't reproduce here to save space.)</p> rather than actually including the references from the paper!

So this isn't a perfect solution, but considering it took just the first prompt I could think of it's a very promising start. I expect someone willing to spend more than the couple of minutes I invested in this could produce a very useful HTML alternative version of the paper with the assistance of Gemini Pro.

One last amusing note: I posted a link to this to Hacker News a few hours ago. Just now when I searched Google for the exact title of the paper my HTML version was already the third result!

I've now added a <meta name="robots" content="noindex, follow"> tag to the top of the HTML to keep this unverified AI slop out of their search index. This is a good reminder of how much better HTML is than PDF for sharing information on the web!

# 11 pm / google, pdf, seo, sql, ai, julia-evans, generative-ai, llms, gemini, slop