5 items tagged “andreas-kling”
2024
Ladybird set to adopt Swift. Andreas Kling on the Ladybird browser project's search for a memory-safe language to use in conjunction with their existing C++ codebase:
Over the last few months, I've asked a bunch of folks to pick some little part of our project and try rewriting it in the different languages we were evaluating. The feedback was very clear: everyone preferred Swift!
Andreas previously worked for Apple on Safari, but this was still a surprising result given the current relative lack of widely adopted open source Swift projects outside of the Apple ecosystem.
This change is currently blocked on the upcoming Swift 6 release:
We aren't able to start using it just yet, as the current release of Swift ships with a version of Clang that's too old to grok our existing C++ codebase. But when Swift 6 comes out of beta this fall, we will begin using it!
Announcing the Ladybird Browser Initiative (via) Andreas Kling's Ladybird is a really exciting project: a from-scratch implementation of a web browser, initially built as part of the Serenity OS project, which aims to provide a completely independent, open source and fully standards compliant browser.
Last month Andreas forked Ladybird away from Serenity, recognizing that the potential impact of the browser project on its own was greater than as a component of that project. Crucially, Serenity OS avoids any outside code - splitting out Ladybird allows Ladybird to add dependencies like libjpeg and ffmpeg. The Ladybird June update video talks through some of the dependencies they've been able to add since making that decision.
The new Ladybird Browser Initiative puts some financial weight behind the project: it's a US 501(c)(3) non-profit initially funded with $1m from GitHub co-founder Chris Chris Wanstrath. The money is going on engineers: Andreas says:
We are 4 full-time engineers today, and we'll be adding another 3 in the near future
Here's a 2m28s video from Chris introducing the new foundation and talking about why this project is worth supporting.
For some reason, many people still believe that browsers need to include non-standard hacks in HTML parsing to display the web correctly.
In reality, the HTML parsing spec is exhaustively detailed. If you implement it as described, you will have a web-compatible parser.
2023
How we’re building a browser when it’s supposed to be impossible (via) Andreas Kling: “The ECMAScript, HTML, and CSS specifications today are (for the most part) stellar technical documents whose algorithms can be implemented with considerably less effort and guesswork than in the past.” The Ladybird project is such an inspiration, and really demonstrates the enormous value of the work put in by web standards spec authors over the last twenty years.
2022
Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project (via) Conventional wisdom is that building a new browser engine from scratch is impossible without enormous capital outlay and many people working together for many years. Andreas Kling has been disproving that for a while now with his SerenityOS from-scratch operating system project, which includes a brand new browser implemented in C++. Now Andreas is announcing his plans to extract that browser as Ladybird and make it run across multiple platforms. Andreas is a former WebKit engineer (at Nokia and then Apple) and really knows his stuff: Ladybird already passes the Acid3 test!