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Nvu

Launched today by Lindows, Nvu is a new project to develop a complete “web authoring system” (aka Dreamweaver/Frontpage style WYSIWYG editor) for the Linux platform. Reading around the marketing hyperbole, What it actually is is a standalone version of Mozilla’s Composer with a whole bunch of improvements and extra features, scheduled for release in early 2004.

The really good news is that Lindows have hired Daniel Glazman to work on the project full time. Daniel is the principle maintainer of Mozilla Composer and it’s great to see his work being funded in this way. Improvements to Composer made for Nvu seem certain to make it back in to the main Mozilla trunk.

The not-so-good news is that the Nvu site and FAQ make no mention of a Windows version of the software. Since development is being sponsored by Lindows this shouldn’t come as a surprise, but it is disappointing because the great strength of the Mozilla framework is that it supports cross-platform development.

It’s also going to be interesting to see how this pans out from a web standards point of view. On the one hand, Daniel is certainly on the side of web standards. On the other hand, the current Nvu site’s markup seems to come right out of 1998. I very much doubt it was created with the tool it promotes but it doesn’t give off a particularly reassuring message. A free WYSIWYG HTML editor with strong standards support out of the box would be a valuable tool in helping authors create standards compliant sites. As it is, Dreamweaver is getting close but Dreamweaver also costs nearly $400.

Wild conjecturing apart, the most interesting thing about Nvu (the name’s pretty terrible but at least they got a three letter domain name) may well be the features that are added to the current Composer code base. The screenshots already hint at intelligent FTP publishing support; what would be really interesting would be the integration of a simple templating system and/or client side CMS capabilities—something like a cross between Fog Creek’s CityDesk and Macromedia’s Contribute. Interested developers are invited to sign up for a mailing list for notification of when the first development builds are made available. This is going to be an interesting project to watch.

This is Nvu by Simon Willison, posted on 30th October 2003.

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7 comments

  1. Bad name, and comparing itself with FrontPage ... sounds like they need someone to handle their marketing ...

    Mean Dean - 31st October 2003 04:26 - #

  2. I think this is great. It's nice to see companies paying for further mozilla-related development. It's just too bad that Lindows isn't making this a cross platform app.

    Scott Johnson - 31st October 2003 20:08 - #

  3. Hmm... Why is comparing it to FP bad? Keep in mind, management's heard of FrontPage. Have they heard of Dreamweaver? Maybe. Have they heard of Notepad? No (unless they're geeky). They might find out about Nvu, and see that it's a free alternative to FrontPage (which they've heard of), and then buy it.

    bhtooefr - 16th December 2003 00:22 - #

  4. It is my strong opinion that Macromedia Dreamweaver is the champ when it comes to the Windows-based WYSIWYG editors. Macromedia has in the past and is right on target with what Web designers/developers have and will need. I would have really enjoyed seeing Macromedia release a cross-platform or Linux version of its software suite.

    Anyhow, taking away some of Microsoft's market share (aka industry dominance) is what this is all about anyway, while at the same time delivering a good product that us developers can use. Right???

    Dan - 9th January 2004 01:43 - #

  5. Well, this post about the progress of Nvu on Daniel Glazman's blog mentions that we will see early binary releases for Linux and Windows sometime in the next few weeks..... so there is a windows version happening too....

    Kaustubh Srikanth - 13th January 2004 21:07 - #

  6. Comparing it to Frontpage shows they DO know about marketing. As for the name, go read the 22 Immutable Laws of Branding and you'll see it's a great name. I'd say Lindows knows marketing better than anyone in the Linux space. Hats off to them. Hans

    Hans - 6th February 2004 22:50 - #

  7. A new and easy way

    Inayatullah - 9th December 2004 22:10 - #

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