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Mozilla 1.5a and Firebird 0.6.1

Mozilla 1.5 alpha is now available for download from Mozilla.org. Changenotes here (it looks like mostly improvements to Composer, but the ability to jump from the javascript debugger straight to the view source line in question could be handy). Asa is promising a new Firebird release soon:

We’re planning on doing a Firebird release based on the Mozilla 1.5a branch. This isn’t going to be Firebird 0.7 since we haven’t met our goals for features and fixes but we think it’s important to get the autocomplete crash fix (and a few other fixes) into the hands of all the people currently using 0.6.

Some of the comments attached to Asa’s post argue against releasing a new build based on the 1.5a Mozilla code. Personally I’m looking forward to the autocomplete crash fix in an official build as opposed to just the nightlies.

Posted 23rd July 2003 at 3:46 pm

This is Mozilla 1.5a and Firebird 0.6.1 by Simon Willison, posted on 23rd July 2003.

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9 comments

  1. I just can't hang with Firebird. I use Debian exclusively, so I *live* in Mozilla and have a fairly customized environment. In addition to NOT importing my cookies/bookmarks/passwords/etc, Firebird can't even handle simple things like the Active PHP Bookmarks bookmarklet, which I don't understand at all, since I thought it would use the same JS engine etc as Mozilla...

    Sam - 23rd July 2003 23:02 - #

  2. It's disappointing that Mozilla won't be switching over to Firebird as its browser component as soon as had been anticipated (Mozilla 1.5), but I think its for the best. As good as Firebird is at this point, its simply not ready for mass consumption. The 'auto-complete crash' bug is a perfect example. The last thing we want is new users to get turned off of Mozilla because of such frustrating annoyances...

    MikeyC - 24th July 2003 00:58 - #

  3. the only thing i'm looking for in a next version of firebird is just the ability to warn me when i'm closing a multi-tabbed browser, that's FINALLY been fixed in mozilla. hopefully i got my versions straight in my head, in assuming that the firedbird that comes from 1.5 will also contain this fix. j.

    jon - 24th July 2003 05:21 - #

  4. jon, you should try "Tabbrowser Extensions" http://texturizer.net/firebird/extensions.html#Tab browser%20Extensions. This extension really works great! I just hope that Firebird 0.7 will include this extension in the core.

    BennyNg - 24th July 2003 06:11 - #

  5. MOZILLA SUCKS!!!!!!

    Satan - 24th July 2003 12:06 - #

  6. Thank you for that valuable insight.

    Simon Willison - 24th July 2003 12:10 - #

  7. It's nice to see such insightful views by people who clearly know what they are talking about and are able to construct valid and convincing arguments to support their views. Like for example this interesting piece by Hixie that describes just a small percentage of reasons why Internet Explorer sucks.

    That though doesn't even begin to go into the huge problems caused by allowing one company to dominate the Internet. (Think Digital Rights Management which leads to people being forced to use Windows to download their music, leading to people being forced to buy 'Palladium'-based computers to use their operating system, leading to Microsoft having control over the entire world's computers. Think it won't happen? What's been done to stop them so far?

    Xiven - 24th July 2003 12:58 - #

  8. I'm posting this from Firebird and I stand corrected about the Active PHP Bookmarks' bookmarklet. It works! Still no import of Mozilla data, which IMO is a killer!

    Sam - 24th July 2003 19:36 - #

  9. Funny stuff - I noticed free e-mail @explorersucks.com It is at http://www.explorersucks.com/email/ By the looks of the main page, they support Firefox.

    Sam - 26th January 2005 17:16 - #

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