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<feed xml:lang="en-us" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><title>Simon Willison's Weblog: ben-trott</title><link href="http://simonwillison.net/" rel="alternate"/><link href="http://simonwillison.net/tags/ben-trott.atom" rel="self"/><id>http://simonwillison.net/</id><updated>2007-02-25T00:43:20+00:00</updated><author><name>Simon Willison</name></author><entry><title>Data::ObjectDriver</title><link href="https://simonwillison.net/2007/Feb/25/dataobjectdriver/#atom-tag" rel="alternate"/><published>2007-02-25T00:43:20+00:00</published><updated>2007-02-25T00:43:20+00:00</updated><id>https://simonwillison.net/2007/Feb/25/dataobjectdriver/#atom-tag</id><summary type="html">
    
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/Data-ObjectDriver/lib/Data/ObjectDriver.pm"&gt;Data::ObjectDriver&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
Benjamin Trott’s Perl ORM, with built in support for both caching and data partitioning. I think this is what Six Apart uses for Vox.


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</summary><category term="ben-trott"/><category term="orm"/><category term="perl"/><category term="scaling"/><category term="sixapart"/><category term="vox"/></entry><entry><title>Pingback coverage</title><link href="https://simonwillison.net/2002/Sep/25/pingbackCoverage/#atom-tag" rel="alternate"/><published>2002-09-25T12:54:44+00:00</published><updated>2002-09-25T12:54:44+00:00</updated><id>https://simonwillison.net/2002/Sep/25/pingbackCoverage/#atom-tag</id><summary type="html">
    &lt;p&gt;The Pingback 1.0 specification is getting some serious attention. &lt;a href="http://diveintomark.org/archives/2002/09/23.html#now_heavily_medicated" title="Now heavily medicated"&gt;Mark Pilgrim&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://scriptingnews.userland.com/backissues/2002/09/24#When:8:14:24PM" title="Form opinion"&gt;Dave Winer&lt;/a&gt; have linked to it. Ben Trott (co-author of Moveable Type and creator of TrackBack, the system that inspired Pingback) has &lt;a href="http://www.stupidfool.org/archives/2002/09/000211.shtml" title="Pingback"&gt;objected&lt;/a&gt; to Hixie's &lt;a href="http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1032794857&amp;amp;count=1" title="Pingback 1.0"&gt;suggestion&lt;/a&gt; that Pingback is more transparent than TrackBack, claiming that TrackBack could be made just as transparent by the right blog tools. Ben &lt;a href="http://www.stupidfool.org/archives/2002/09/000212.shtml" title="More on PingBack and Transparency"&gt;blogged&lt;/a&gt; some further thoughts which lead to the following comment by Phil Ringnalda:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite="http://www.stupidfool.org/archives/2002/09/000212.shtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I've avoided saying anything about PingBack until now, since I like and respect the people who've developed it, but it is *not* TrackBack. When you send a TrackBack ping, you are saying "I responded to this, and I think that your readers would also like to read what I said." You are leaving a remote comment. When you send a PingBack ping, you are saying "I linked to you", nothing more. It's a "show referrers" script that filters out non-weblog referrers, a way to avoid having to click your own links to be sure you send a referrer. It is *not* TrackBack.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is an interesting perspective, but I can't agree with it completely. Firstly, Pingbacks are meant to be sent by blogging tools. If you have blogged a link to someone else's entry you are linking to them for a purpose (which is almost certainly some form of comment on their entry) - this is why my Pingback implementation grabs an extract of their page from the text surrounding the link.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;michel v has some &lt;a href="http://tidakada.com/archives/p/1876/more/1"&gt;further thoughts&lt;/a&gt; on the differences between Pingback and TrackBack.&lt;/p&gt;
    
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